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Server 2019 - Windows Search Service feature, what does it do?

Hi, I've been looking for an answer to this for quite a while now. What does enabling the 'Windows Search service' feature actually do? The 'Windows Search' service is already available when installing a 2019 server from the original media, albeit in disabled state. Enabling the 'Windows Search Service' feature does not enable it though.
The indexing options do only work when I manually enable the 'Windows Search' service (that was already there) and it works perfectly fine whether or not I enable the 'Windows Search Service' feature. Even on remote machines with a mapping to that drive.

So basically my question is, what does the 'Windows Search Service' feature actually install or do opposed to the already available 'Windows Search' service?


btw. is anyone else thinking this new QA forum is utter garbage compared to the Technet forums we had before? This tagging system drives me nuts, it just doesn't work well.

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I have a similar problem. I have a bare-metal installation of Windows Hyper-v Server 2019 with two virtual Windows 2019 servers running as guests. One is the Domain Controller and the other host all the other Roles including the RDSH Role which I understand is incompatible with the Windows Search Service. So I have the Search Service running on the Domain Controller but the available locations only index physical disks. This virtual server resides on a vhdx Virtual Drive and the drive I want to index is a partition on the bare-metal machine. I know that you can set a pass-through physical drive in he virtual machine settings, but it doesn't seem that you can pass in a physical partition from the host. How can you index a partition on the bare-metal machine to enable fast searching over UNC mapped drives?

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Hi @RobertGijsen-1493,

Did you come by the following documentation?

Windows Search Service
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/search/-search-3x-wds-overview#windows-search-service

Here's also a great post about the evolution of the Windows Search and how it's changed over the years:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows-search-platform/the-evolution-of-windows-search/

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(If the reply was helpful please don't forget to upvote or accept as answer, thank you)


Best regards,
Leon


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Yes I did come by that, and it's a nice read but it does not answer my question. I just check again to make sure I'm not being an idiot, but indeed on a vanilla Windows Server 2019 install, the search service is already installed albeit disabled. Just enabling it is enough to make indexing and searching work, even for clients that have mapped the drive over SMB.
So my question still stands - what does enabling the Windows Search Service feature add?

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The Windows Search service is set to Disabled default in Windows Server 2016 & Windows Server 2019. The reason behind this is because indexing of the volumes can cause problems in certain scenarios, for example with Cluster Shared Volumes (CSV) and in running Remote Desktop Session Host (RDSH) with multiple simultaneous sessions.

So what does it add by enabling it?

The Windows search functionality in the Start Menu uses the Windows Search service believe it or not, but this is something that is not as commonly used in servers, more used in clients/desktops.

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Hi,

Is there any update? Have checked suggestion provide by Leon?
Please feel free to let us know if more assistance needed.

Thanks,
Jenny

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There is no update as he still doesn't answer my question but gives a generic answer. And also it takes a while for me to reply as this piece of sh$t of a forum has SO many issues it's unbelievable MS moved from Technet to this. One of them is that I do NOT get notifications, whatever I do so I didn't know about this reply at all.

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JennyYan-MSFT answered RobertGijsen commented

Hi,
1.One of them is that I do NOT get notifications
You could follow the steps in our documentation to enable e-mail notifications after posting questions in QA forum.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/articles/67444/email-notifications.html

2.After searched a while, there is no exact explanations on enabling "windows search service" but someone talked about more of disabling windows search service.
For starters, it can be hard to tell exactly what programs will be affected by this decision, and what really relies on Windows Search Service. The obvious is that the search boxes will all disappear from your desktop. Any program that relies on the Windows Search Service might have functionality issues (eg. Internet Explorer), and indexing will be removed from the Control Panel. This may also affect any third party search apps that depend on Windows’ own search index.
Reference:
https://lookeen.com/blog/how-to-use-windows-search-service
Please note: Information posted in the given link is hosted by a third party. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy and effectiveness of information.
 


Hope this helps and please help to accept as Answer if the response is useful.

Thanks,
Jenny

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ngs? And using Chrome I'm unable (just fresh install of Chrome, nothing else) to post replies, but using IE it works...
Wow it's just terrible this forum. It really is.
Of course no-one responded to my feedback, either the feedback itself or the post in the forum I already linked to. Initially I was rather constructive about it, but by now I'm annoyed as anything about the whole situation. The whole forum is a mess, it just doesn't work well.. a 1000 character limit on forum posts, what bright light thought of that? How to do a detailed description of anything with a part of a log file in 1000 characters?

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Do you really think I didn't try that? But below is the result. And note that I had to upload the screenshot elsewhere, as this MS QA won't let me upload a picture either. It just remains at 0% for a 48KB file.

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So that's what happens, I just get errors all over. And what's with the bars in the section below? It's just empty but it should show types of notifications I want to receive. I posted at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/118491/qampa-is-just-terrible-compared-to-the-old-technet-1.html, after I made an actual feedback report. But that got deleted, or at least I can't even access that myself anymore.


For your actual answer to my question, again that doesn't help much. Also enabling or disabling search service does NOT remove any options from control panel. Al this 'might' or 'supposed to' or 'obvious' makes it even harder to grasp. Ohw and now there is a number of character limit on posti

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MitchBrown-0573 answered lakend-7692 commented

The OP's question still has not been answered:

"So basically my question is, what does the 'Windows Search Service' feature actually install or do opposed to the already available 'Windows Search' service?"

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I would also like to know what "Windows Search Service" -feature install or changes. Like stated earlier, Search Index can be setup Service started with out installing the Feature. So, what is the difference?

-lakend

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I am just starting a project and intend not to use Windows Search, just the iFilters (from it). I.e. I feed the desired documents into C# code and get the text back which I drop into SQL Server Full Text Search. This allows me to use a web front end and restrict search scopes to user permissions stored in the database.

My development machine is Windows 10 and it purrs nicely, I have not been able to find clear documentation on which iFilters are installed with Server 2016 and 2019. Can someone point me to the documentation?

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Christoph-0369 answered RobertGijsen commented

The question is still unanswered.
I think someone from Microsoft should know what their own products are for...

Again, it's not about the pre installed and disabled search service, it's about the search feature you can install with server manager.
What is it doing?

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I found this thread while searching for the same answer as Christoph-0369. Once again I am disappointed in Microsoft's inability to provide a straight answer to a simple question. After scrolling to the bottom I see Christoph-0369 has answered his own question...that his question is still unanswered!

I am not surprised since I see Microsoft spending so much effort on other important things....like controlling my default printer? I am still baffled at where that overwhelming request for a feature has come from. Let's assume I am a CEO of a company and I print a color flyer for our company picnic to a color printer in the middle of the front office where everyone can see it. Then after a few minutes and a phone call I print a memo to my "private" default printer in my office about how 10 people in the office are losing their jobs. Now the whole front office knows thanks to Microsoft and their lust for default printer control. I wish someone could explain to me how that feature is actually worth all the effort they have put into it, I would love a fresh perspective.

And I still don't know what the Windows Search Feature is for. Happy printing Microsoft!

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Hehe your comment made me laugh... in pitty alas. It is indeed weird to see how Microsoft schedules their priorities. I've moved to Server 2022 for one of our file servers, and the question about search still stands there, no difference. But the indexing is EXTREMELY slow there, taking 100% of one CPU. I've move back to 2019 with that machine and keep my hands of 2022 for a while.

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