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Where does one report SQL Server or T-SQL bugs, now that UserVoice is gone? What is the replacement Microsoft as it relates to SQL Server?

Hi everyone.

Where does one report SQL Server or T-SQL bugs now that UserVoice is gone? What is the replacement Microsoft, as it relates to SQL Server?

Connect is gone.
UserVoice is gone.

I had quite a few entries logged in personally in both.
Where is the history?

Where to log this stuff now?

Any ideas?

Is there any voice left that SQL community can raise that Microsoft can hear?

Thanks
Vladimir

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HI @VladimirMoldovanenko-3700,

Welcome to Microsoft Q&A!

You could refer SQL Server help and feedback which explains different ways to get assistance with your issue, or provide feedback for either SQL Server, or the SQL Server technical documentation.

You could consider to open a ticket with Microsoft support if you have any urgent issue or concern.

Thank you for understanding!

Best regards,
Melissa


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@MelissaMa-msft

Hi.

Thanks for your link. I am aware of many of those venues, however, Connect and UserVoice served different purpose.
It served as non-emergency, general feedback channel that SQL community could use to submit issues.

Reading from that link, it was a channel to... "Feedback suggestions
You can submit suggestions for improvement, as well as submit bugs for:" ... SQL Server, SSMS, T-SQL.

In SSMS, when user runs query with geometry data type output, and result set includes set extra column value for label, there is a bug that I submitted recently, couple weeks ago, and that bug is in the fact that geometry label is not drawn, unless one unchecks and checks to show grid lines. I do not need immediate resolution; I have no desire to call paid support lines to report it, spending days on it. I moved on with my life in hopes that this issue will be read, triaged, and fixed one day.
That is the type of issue Connect/UserVoice is good for.

Removing UserVoice, which was poor substitution for Connect, without providing any replacement, when Microsoft promised replacement with an announcement on UserVoice, is poor decision for a company like Microsoft.
Just like trying to deprecate diagram support or removing debugger!

I am flabbergasting at such decisions and expect better from Microsoft.

There was a lot of good will in SQL community towards Microsoft, however Microsoft is killing it by thousand cuts, with decision like this.

You can pass it to your bosses if you can.

Thank you personally for your help to 1000s of users on this site.

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ErlandSommarskog avatar image ErlandSommarskog VladimirMoldovanenko-3700 ·

In SSMS, when user runs query with geometry data type output, and result set includes set extra column value for label, there is a bug that I submitted recently, couple weeks ago, and that bug is in the fact that geometry label is not drawn, unless one unchecks and checks to show grid lines. I do not need immediate resolution; I have no desire to call paid support lines to report it, spending days on it. I moved on with my life in hopes that this issue will be read, triaged, and fixed one day.
That is the type of issue Connect/UserVoice is good for.

Just because UserVoice is not available anymore does not mean that all those bug reports have been flushed down the toilet. They are still there in Microsoft's internal bug-tracking system, in some shape or form.

Again, I urge you to cool down. While the messaging on the current site certainly could be clearer, we don't know how long this hiatus will be. If a new site is up in two weeks, is it the end of the world that we are not able to report bugs for two weeks?

If it's three months later and there is still no update, it's a different matter.

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TomPhillips-1744 avatar image TomPhillips-1744 VladimirMoldovanenko-3700 ·

In MS defense, the Connect/Feedback/UserVoice have never been good for them or the user community.

There are many duplicate and non-issues reported by users in those methods. They need to have a MS employee "groom" them and add them to the list, rather than just allow anyone to post on it.

Certainly there are real issue. But if you are having an issue, your first response should be to upgrade to a current patch level and retest. If that does not work, contact MS Support.

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ErlandSommarskog answered VladimirMoldovanenko-3700 commented

A new feedback site is now available at https://feedback.azure.com/d365community/forum/04fe6ee0-3b25-ec11-b6e6-000d3a4f0da0.

Old items, including votes!, appear to have been migrated.

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Ernald,
Thanks for posting a link here. I discovered it independently today, however, you have provided an answer to my original question!

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TomPhillips-1744 answered

See:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/uservoice-pages-430e1a78-e016-472a-a10f-dc2a3df3450a

The main method right now is contact MS Tech support.

If you are having a problem, you can post it here and see if someone can help. Although not an official MS support, there are MS employees who monitor the forums.

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YitzhakKhabinsky-0887 answered VladimirMoldovanenko-3700 commented

IMHO, Microsoft dropped the ball.

  • Originally, it was Microsoft Connect. It was shutdown in favor of UserVoice. Alas, many Microsoft connect items were not migrated to the UserVoice on https://feedback.azure.com/

  • Now Azure feedback vanished into a thin air. All of it, i.e. 100%.

It seems that Microsoft doesn't care anymore...


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One would wonder this, "It seems that Microsoft doesn't care anymore...", when adding an array index to split_string() output, or making separator > 1 char, has been ignored for over 5 years.

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ErlandSommarskog answered

As I understand it, there will be a replacement. There was a blurb earlier saying that there would be change and that it would move to a Microsoft-hosted site. Right now, there is nothing, but hopefully this is just a transitionary state. I suggest that we hold our horses for a while before we start to call Microsoft ugly names.

As for existing items, I would be surprised if they would not migrate them to the new system in one way or another.

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SamBendayan-2303 answered ErlandSommarskog commented

I am trying to remember the last time I saw something like this. An enormous company with almost unlimited resources can't provide a new version of a system before shutting the old version down? If any of us did this we would be fired.

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An enormous company with almost unlimited resources can't provide a new version of a system before shutting the old version down?

Keep in mind that the old system was not run by Microsoft, but by UserVoice, which to my knowing is a company, independent of Microsoft.

No one here knows what happened, but I can very well imagine that were business reasons involved. That is, the contract with UserVoice, and for one reason or another, Microsoft did not want to prolong the contract, but preferred to have a hiatus before the new system is in place.

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YitzhakKhabinsky-0887 answered

We are into September, 2021.
The Microsoft dev. community is still in limbo.

At present there appears to be no publicly accessible site at all for posting feedback on SQL Server. It used to be Microsoft Connect, which was retired in favor of Azure Feedback, which is now itself no longer available, but with no obvious alternative in place yet.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69070702/convenience-tool-for-ignoring-leading-and-and-where-to-request-new-sql-server

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eitanblumin answered ErlandSommarskog commented

Are you kidding me?? How was this allowed to happen??

Did seriously no one at Microsoft think that maybe it would be best to first make the alternate platform available, and only THEN retire the old one????

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Again, please keep in mind that Uservoice was not Microsoft's own system, but Uservoice is an independent company. See also my comment to Sam Bendayan above.

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YitzhakKhabinsky-0887 answered

Hi all

Microsoft feedback is back from the dead.
It was dead for two months.

The reincarnated link: https://feedback.azure.com/d365community/

Unfortunately, it has a blob formatting, and all the comments are gone.
Also, the original posters are gone too.
It says that Microsoft originated all the posts.

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There appears to be a new user voice, https://feedback.azure.com/d365community/forum/04fe6ee0-3b25-ec11-b6e6-000d3a4f0da0

it's buggy too, for now I guess
go to any page > 1 then view any item and use browser 'back'. it takes you to the 1st page

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