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Group Policy Management Console

I upgraded from a version of Windows 10 to a version of Windows 10 Home 20H2 two years ago. Yellow warning triangles appeared in Device Manager and I assumed they were due to a driver update issue. Windows 10 Home 20H2 / 21H1 / 21H2 and Windows security updates have worked well. I downloaded two KB updates during the Windows 20H2 updates because it was mentioned that they should be that the updates come automatically after that, but the drivers didn't seem to be updating and the yellow attention triangles were still in Device Manager.

That's when I downloaded this Group Policy Management Console. I don't remember where I downloaded it from Microsoft. It is apparently intended for businesses as an application that allows updates to be collected and programmed to run centrally during quieter times, such as at night. When I installed the program, the questions about the updates made me think that this is probably not the right application to download. I think I deleted it, but I don't remember how and I don't remember how far I answered the questions and saved the answers during the installation. I did not download this program to collect updates for later download, but I thought some program needed to be downloaded to update the drivers.

I remember an icon popping up with a red briefcase on top of Event Viewer indicating that action was needed. I couldn’t find a reason for it to appear, so I changed the settings so it didn’t show it anymore. The intention was to find out the reason later, but I forgot the whole thing. I don't even know if this is related to this program.

I have still tried to find a solution to the upgrade problems, but I probably still have this program because in early 2022 I found the C: Windows / WSUS folder. Now this WSUS folder is gone, but there is a C: Windows / WaaS folder with content from 7/12/2019 to 19/03/2022.

At the end of March, I updated the drivers and cleaned my machine with IObit. The program deleted a lot of files. I got at least part of it back. The following files were recovered
C: The Windows / Logs / waasmedic folder is full of etl files
C: The Windows / System32 / GroupPolicy folder, but it is quite empty
C: The Program Files / Microsort Update Health Tools folder contains expediteupdater.exe and uhssvc.exe
A lot of GroupPolicyManagement, Waas, waasmedic, wsus files appeared under the C folder.
I don't know if these are related to this program.

My problem is.

  1. The Group Policy Management Console still exists, although I thought I removed it.
    As far as I know, the WSUS and waas folders are attached to this Group Policy Management Console. These folders remained even though I cleaned my machine with this IObit program. When there are updates for the files in the folders this year, I assume that this Group Policy Management Console still exists, and I didn't delete it properly two years ago.

  2. I don't know if the Group Policy Management Console has collected updates in two years, and if so, what updates and how can I deploy them.
    To my knowledge, the Group Policy Management Console program does not automatically enable updates but must be separately configured to do so and when I have not done so, there may be two years of updates somewhere. I can use IObit to update drivers, but OEM updates from the device manufacturer are the ones I'm worried about. Will I even get them from the hardware manufacturer if they have accumulated here in the program and cannot be returned. I don't know how and with what application to check for and install updates. Or is this program now called Group Policy Editor. Is it even possible to get updates for such a long time if they have accumulated there?

  3. Uninstall the Group Policy Management Console.
    I installed Windows 21H2 using MediaCreationTool21H2.exe. I restored my computer to its default settings and at the same time reinstalled Windows, but this program is still there. I have received new instructions for downloading and installing MediaCreationTool21H2.exe from a USB drive. Windows should load without any other programs. I would first like to see if any updates have accumulated in this Group Policy Management Console and can be installed before uninstalling the program. And is this instruction on downloading to a USB drive the right tool to uninstall a program.

Probably my original problem wasn’t even related to the upgrade issues. New updates and new BIOS for Windows 10 should have been downloaded from the device manufacturer's website. I had assumed they would come automatically through Windows Update. I'm not sure if the Group Policy Management Console is somehow preventing updates from occurring because some device manufacturer updates are still not being updated. Because with IObit, when I updated the drivers to the latest ones and cleaned up a lot of unnecessary files, some of the hardware manufacturer’s OEM updates that were missed were now updated after two years, but some still didn’t update. I was also instructed to perform a cold boot on Alt + F10 from the device manufacturer's factory settings, but I read somewhere that when I have the original version of the device in Windows 8, when that version no longer exists, I should contact Microsoft support before downloading the factory settings. I'm not sure if this is the correct information. And should this program be uninstalled first before even trying to resolve driver updates.

I have tried to read information from the sites that I would solve the problem myself, but my own skills are not enough to solve this problem. My operating system is in Finnish, so the support service couldn't help remotely via a shared screen. So now I need some advice on what to do to solve this problem.

My current version of Windows is Windows 10 Home 21H2
Consolidated operating system version: 19044.1620

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Sounds like you're looking for FOD RSAT tools.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/features-on-demand-non-language-fod?view=windows-11#remote-server-administration-tools-rsat

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Just checking if there's any progress or updates?

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Thank you. I accessed that page via a link.

When running the DISM / online / get-capabilities command, Not present was added to Microsoft-Windows-GroupPolicy. So this means that the program no longer exists.

The Microsoft-Windows-GroupPolicy-Management-Tools-FoD-Package ~ 31bf3856ad364e35 ~ amd64 ~~ .cab file is mentioned in the Group Policy Management Tools section of the link. It can also be found in the files I recovered that I had previously deleted with IObit. And that obviously means that that program has been. IObit has probably removed at least part of it, so it no longer works, part of the program is left when the Waas folder is found, and that folder is unlikely to be associated with anything other than this Group Policy Management Console. Even this restored file has only been restored under the C drive and has not been restored to any folder. That is, restoring the files that belonged to the program, however, did not restore the running program.

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  1. I understand from the instructions on the page that with certain functions, that program can be restored. If I restore it, will it restore the program as new or will it link the old remaining parts to this new restore. The main thing I am looking for here is that if I use the functions to restore the program, then will it check for old unloaded updates from somewhere that it is possible to check what updates are there. And whether the updates that haven’t been downloaded for use have usually accumulated on my own machine or somewhere else.

  2. And if any old updates are no longer available, how do you completely remove this Group Policy Management Console program. Also the rest of the program when it was not completely removed by IObit.

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I have no experience with iobit tools. They may know something here.
https://www.iobit.com/en/contact.php

personally, I'd probably clean install it and move on.

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Can anyone answer these questions?

  1. I understand from the instructions on the page that with certain functions, that program can be restored. If I restore it, will it restore the program as new or will it link the old remaining parts to this new restore. The main thing I am looking for here is that if I use the functions to restore the program, then will it check for old unloaded updates from somewhere that it is possible to check what updates are there. And whether the updates that haven’t been downloaded for use have usually accumulated on my own machine or somewhere else.

  2. And if any old updates are no longer available, how do you completely remove this Group Policy Management Console program. Also the rest of the program when it was not completely removed by IObit.

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Since the image was altered via third party utilities, we have no idea whether the restore or removal you ask about is even possible. If it were me then I'd probably clean install windows.

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How do I clean these installation windows?

I installed Windows 21H2 using MediaCreationTool21H2.exe. I restored my computer to its default settings and at the same time reinstalled Windows, but this program is still there. I have received new instructions for downloading and installing MediaCreationTool21H2.exe from a USB drive. Windows should load without any other programs. Is this guide for downloading to a USB drive the right tool to uninstall a program?

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You can follow the instructions here. There's no need to restore after doing a clean installation.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

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Just checking if there's any progress or updates?

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Thank you. The link found instructions on how to download the installer to an external drive. It needs an 8 GB USB stick that needs to be purchased, the old ones are too small. I'll let you know later when I get the stick if it managed to remove the program. In the meantime, I will try to restore the factory settings when suggested to fix errors in Device Manager. I don't know if it could remove the remaining parts of these programs at the same time.

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The much simpler solution is to clean install it and move on.

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Just checking if there's any progress or updates?

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