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SSengupta-4080 Posted ·

Not a Substitute for TechNet or MSDN Forum

Very poor navigation....Unfortunately it's more like Microsoft Answers Forum and not a substitute of TechNet or MSDN Forums at all.
So sad to see the fate of those two classical forums like this.

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saldana-msft Posted ·

@SSengupta-4080 can you be more specific on what features you are missing here?

For the record, we are not trying to build another MSDN or TechNet Forum site. We are trying to focus more on Questions and Answers than in conversations. We are trying to remove the unnatural barriers of the categories and forums as well.

I understand we are moving slower than we wanted in creating new features and fixing bugs and I apologize for that.

Anyways if you can provide us more information on what scenarios you would like to see covered or improved, we will consider them for implementation. Thank you!

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"we are not trying to build another MSDN or TechNet Forum site."

But apparently the product groups are telling us differently. In multiple TechNet forums that I participate in, the moderators have posted notices stating that they are moving to this forum. They have even posted a date at which time the TechNet forum will be closed.

"We are trying to remove the unnatural barriers of the categories and forums as well."

Topical forums create 'unnatural barriers'? Since when? Topics make it easy to follow the topics you are interested in. In fact, you have done the same thing by have topics that one follows. I don't understand your comment.

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Well, you may want to "focus more on Questions and Answers" but the reality is that most questions produce some conversation between the OP and community members in order to obtain clarification or additional information. These conversations tend to appear as comments.

In my opinion, the stated focus is unattainable unless Microsoft starts closing questions that do not meet strict guidelines. I hardly recommend taking that approach -- other forums that follow such practices already exist.

And I agree that the categorizations and topical nature of the MSDN/TechNet forums did not constitute unnatural barriers.

As I see it, the Q&A format is not nearly as user-friendly as the phased out MSDN forums for both questioners and the interested community members that might respond. So far, these forums have been a disappointment to me.

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pituach Posted ·

Good day ,

You can use the following extension if you want to get a looks & feel whioch is more like the MSDN forums

https://github.com/pituach/RonenArielyQaN/tree/master/ShowHideContent

You can watch the presentation (ShowHideContent.pptx) before using it in order to get more understanding on what this extension does. The presentation is not full but gives good basic.

If there will be demand then I will improve the extension more. But I need to know that I am not wasting my time and it is needed. At this time I developed it to my personal use since I MUST HAVE IT if I want to use the QnA system.


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Nice work with that extension! I wish, they will implement the features that you are using with extensions soon.

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Thanks a lot @VaibhavChaudhari ,

I plan to add many more features if I will only know that people actually use it 😍

I think that your message is the first public feedback which I got. I need a bit more in order to know that people use it, and I do not waste my time.

I think that the extension should be sticky on the top of the forum or presented in another way that all users will be able to see and use it. Using the extension we (the community can work on the GitHub) can focus on the UI, while the Microsoft team focus on the internals (the server side of the code) and fix bugs.

By the way, I can provide to the users several templates/themes which they can select from and each one will have different UI. What I do want to have from the Microsoft team is to improve the XML API for example.

At this time it is standing by itself.


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Hi @pituach ... I'd love to try that extension. Unfortunately, I know nothing about .js files and how to add them to my browser (I'm using Edge).

Could you give me a quick tutorial?

Thanks,
~~Bonnie

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I will respond bellow with "answer" since the comments are very limited for 1000 characters only

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pituach Posted ·

Good day @BonnieDeWitt-QnA

You do not need to know anything about JS in order to use this extension. Like most app you just use it a client.

I noticed that you are Microsoft MVP, so you can contact me using the Yammer MVP channel if you want. I saw your respond here only by luck. There is no way for us to follow our threads in this system except by emails which I will not use for this. There is no filter or sort option by our thread as there is in the MSDN forums

Background

There are several known third party or internal solutions for all common browsers in order to use custom "userscript" - these tools also known as "userscript manager" application. For example, Firefox uses a tool named Greasemonkey which is the original product and for Chrome uses a tool named Tampermonkey which was emerged from a Greasemonkey.

These tools are extensions to the browsers. Once you install these tools, you can add extensions scripts for specific pages. For example the QnA extension script which I wrote. The scripts for the different tools are basically the same but formatted a bit differently (the header for example is different).

note! Tampermonkey is available for Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Safari, Opera Next, and Firefox. I only tested it on Chrome.

My script is ready to be used on Chrome using Tampermonkey. If you are using different userscript manager (like Greasemonkey) then you might need to make tiny adjustment in the headers. If you are using Tampermonkey for example on chrome then you can use it as it is.

The simplest option to install Tampermonkey script from GitHub


(1) Install Tampermonkey (simple double click on the app and click next).

From official site: https://www.tampermonkey.net/

From Chrome extensions store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en

This will add to the browser small icon on the right upper side of the page

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(2) Go to my script using this URL:

https://github.com/pituach/RonenArielyQaN/raw/master/ShowHideContent/RonenAriely_QnA_SubContent.user.js

That's all...

If tampermonkey is installed, then it should recognize the script as tampermonkey script and it will show you a button to install the script.

This is the preferred option since this way you will get information about updates.

Manually install the script directly from the project URL


(1) Install Tampermonkey (Same as before)

(2) Open Tampermonkey Dashboard by right click on the icon

You should see several tabs

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(3) Click on the tab "Utilities"

(4) Scroll down to the end and fill the "Install from URL" with the URL to my script and click install

https://github.com/pituach/RonenArielyQaN/raw/master/ShowHideContent/RonenAriely_QnA_SubContent.user.js

More option to install userscript in the Dashboard Utilities


You can also download the script and install from file

You can copy the content of the script and create new script

and so on...


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